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		<title>By: Serena</title>
		<link>http://rosalindwiseman.com/2009/08/12/13-going-on-30/comment-page-1/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>Serena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that everyone was over reacting a little bit. I wouldn&#039;t call that pole dancing, or at least from my point of view. I&#039;ve seen some pretty crazy stuff in my 12 years and I wouldn&#039;t see that as pole dancing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that everyone was over reacting a little bit. I wouldn&#8217;t call that pole dancing, or at least from my point of view. I&#8217;ve seen some pretty crazy stuff in my 12 years and I wouldn&#8217;t see that as pole dancing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://rosalindwiseman.com/2009/08/12/13-going-on-30/comment-page-1/#comment-1266</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that teen celebs are giving the wrong impression to teen and preteen girls. I live and teach at a boarding school, in Australia so all the kids have to wear uniforms. But after school hours and on weekends, some of the celebrity-inspired fashion I see is atrocious! 12 year old girls dressing up in midrift tops, miniskirts and knee-high boots to do their homework is just absurd. And, I have the responsibility of keeping an eye on the 8th grade girls&#039; dorm, and some of the music they listen to is just too inappropriate for 13 and 14 year old to listen too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that teen celebs are giving the wrong impression to teen and preteen girls. I live and teach at a boarding school, in Australia so all the kids have to wear uniforms. But after school hours and on weekends, some of the celebrity-inspired fashion I see is atrocious! 12 year old girls dressing up in midrift tops, miniskirts and knee-high boots to do their homework is just absurd. And, I have the responsibility of keeping an eye on the 8th grade girls&#8217; dorm, and some of the music they listen to is just too inappropriate for 13 and 14 year old to listen too.</p>
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		<title>By: Hey Kelly Clarkson: Your Real Self isn’t Good Enough For SELF Magazine &#171; Kiss My Assets: The Body Image Resource Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hey Kelly Clarkson: Your Real Self isn’t Good Enough For SELF Magazine &#171; Kiss My Assets: The Body Image Resource Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the “ho-hum” attitude that taken place in media.  We saw it with Miley Cyrus recently and the controversy over whether she did or did not do a stripper pole dance at the Teen Choice Awards—again, it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the “ho-hum” attitude that taken place in media.  We saw it with Miley Cyrus recently and the controversy over whether she did or did not do a stripper pole dance at the Teen Choice Awards—again, it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Bartek</title>
		<link>http://rosalindwiseman.com/2009/08/12/13-going-on-30/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Bartek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tristan,

Thanks for responding. First of all--I agree with you that it&#039;s no secret that the entertainment industry is there to make money by selling an image and a lifestyle, and no to churn out role models. And while I agree with you that the Mileys and Britneys of the world aren&#039;t single-handedly degrading our culture, they (and by they I mean not only the performers but their producers as well) create a norming effect. Each time they step in front of audiences in skimpy outfits, sing as teenagers about sexual experiences, partying, and alcohol, and then be looked at as day-old bread by the time they reach 28, each of us learns a subtle lesson about what our culture values. (i.e. your voice is worth more and people will pay more attention to you if you&#039;re young, sexy, social, you like to have fun, and you don&#039;t complain.) And we reinforce the &quot;rules&quot; of those lessons on each other every day in our own lives. 

 Americans may be a lot more prudish when it comes to more risque content, but I know that  we&#039;re not the only ones learning lessons from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tristan,</p>
<p>Thanks for responding. First of all&#8211;I agree with you that it&#8217;s no secret that the entertainment industry is there to make money by selling an image and a lifestyle, and no to churn out role models. And while I agree with you that the Mileys and Britneys of the world aren&#8217;t single-handedly degrading our culture, they (and by they I mean not only the performers but their producers as well) create a norming effect. Each time they step in front of audiences in skimpy outfits, sing as teenagers about sexual experiences, partying, and alcohol, and then be looked at as day-old bread by the time they reach 28, each of us learns a subtle lesson about what our culture values. (i.e. your voice is worth more and people will pay more attention to you if you&#8217;re young, sexy, social, you like to have fun, and you don&#8217;t complain.) And we reinforce the &#8220;rules&#8221; of those lessons on each other every day in our own lives. </p>
<p> Americans may be a lot more prudish when it comes to more risque content, but I know that  we&#8217;re not the only ones learning lessons from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Jussel, Shaping Youth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Jussel, Shaping Youth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tristan, Two words: APA Study. 
http://www.apa.org/pi/wpo/sexualizationrep.pdf

Digest the 72pp on the global harm to kids due to objectification &amp; you&#039;ll find the stats &amp; damaging dynamic plays out beyond US borders to Europe &amp; beyond...It&#039;s not a morality police issue, it&#039;s a public health one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tristan, Two words: APA Study.<br />
<a href="http://www.apa.org/pi/wpo/sexualizationrep.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.apa.org/pi/wpo/sexualizationrep.pdf</a></p>
<p>Digest the 72pp on the global harm to kids due to objectification &amp; you&#8217;ll find the stats &amp; damaging dynamic plays out beyond US borders to Europe &amp; beyond&#8230;It&#8217;s not a morality police issue, it&#8217;s a public health one.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, you are all making a big deal of something that isn&#039;t. First, it&#039;s called the entertainment industry which means that they don&#039;t care about teaching kids anything. Second, Miley Cirus, Britney Spears, or even video games are not contributing to the &quot;corruption of youth&quot; PERIOD. Stop the pretentious moral high ground, she is a singer who wants to make money, if money is made by dancing on a pole on stage so be it. If you have a problem with that, then it&#039;s the capitalist system you want to change not Miley. In this country if you are making money it usually justifies whatever job you are doing (finance, pharmaceutical, weapons..). I am going on a tangent here but please rethink about all the stars you have ever loved, it&#039;s always been about sex appeal (teens in the 50&#039;s didn&#039;t want to be Marilyn Monroe??) which is only detrimental depending on the setting in which they emerge. I am from France, and I can tell you that our relation to sex/teens/alcohol/clubbing is very different even though our celebs are also Britney Spears, Madonna, Beyonce, Miley Cirus, so if Miley is being sexual in France and the States, but teens in the States are being more destructive does it have to do with Miley Cirus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, you are all making a big deal of something that isn&#8217;t. First, it&#8217;s called the entertainment industry which means that they don&#8217;t care about teaching kids anything. Second, Miley Cirus, Britney Spears, or even video games are not contributing to the &#8220;corruption of youth&#8221; PERIOD. Stop the pretentious moral high ground, she is a singer who wants to make money, if money is made by dancing on a pole on stage so be it. If you have a problem with that, then it&#8217;s the capitalist system you want to change not Miley. In this country if you are making money it usually justifies whatever job you are doing (finance, pharmaceutical, weapons..). I am going on a tangent here but please rethink about all the stars you have ever loved, it&#8217;s always been about sex appeal (teens in the 50&#8217;s didn&#8217;t want to be Marilyn Monroe??) which is only detrimental depending on the setting in which they emerge. I am from France, and I can tell you that our relation to sex/teens/alcohol/clubbing is very different even though our celebs are also Britney Spears, Madonna, Beyonce, Miley Cirus, so if Miley is being sexual in France and the States, but teens in the States are being more destructive does it have to do with Miley Cirus?</p>
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		<title>By: Emily Bartek</title>
		<link>http://rosalindwiseman.com/2009/08/12/13-going-on-30/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily Bartek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Robyn--I definitely agree that when you go to sleep at night and look back on all the chatter about this that has saturated our constantly-percolating news cycle since it happened, it definitely seems like we make a big deal out of nothing. And you&#039;re right--at the end of the day it&#039;s always going to be there in some form, so it&#039;s up to parents to stay conscious and aware of what their kids are watching and not back off of the discussion. 

But I definitely think that part of the &quot;mountain out of a molehill&quot; feeling comes from exactly what Amy is talking about--that the chatter is about the mountain that doesn&#039;t matter--i.e. the nuances of whether Miley was &quot;working the pole&quot; or just &quot;using it for balance&quot;. It&#039;s in those instances when you think &quot;oh my gosh, shut up already!&quot; and just need to turn off the TV. 

And Missy, you absolutely have a point that just because Miley thanks God and her parents in her acceptance speeches, it&#039;s still not going to be the part of the evening that everyone remembers about her...clearly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Robyn&#8211;I definitely agree that when you go to sleep at night and look back on all the chatter about this that has saturated our constantly-percolating news cycle since it happened, it definitely seems like we make a big deal out of nothing. And you&#8217;re right&#8211;at the end of the day it&#8217;s always going to be there in some form, so it&#8217;s up to parents to stay conscious and aware of what their kids are watching and not back off of the discussion. </p>
<p>But I definitely think that part of the &#8220;mountain out of a molehill&#8221; feeling comes from exactly what Amy is talking about&#8211;that the chatter is about the mountain that doesn&#8217;t matter&#8211;i.e. the nuances of whether Miley was &#8220;working the pole&#8221; or just &#8220;using it for balance&#8221;. It&#8217;s in those instances when you think &#8220;oh my gosh, shut up already!&#8221; and just need to turn off the TV. </p>
<p>And Missy, you absolutely have a point that just because Miley thanks God and her parents in her acceptance speeches, it&#8217;s still not going to be the part of the evening that everyone remembers about her&#8230;clearly!</p>
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		<title>By: missy</title>
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		<dc:creator>missy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the Teen Choice Awards but I would have been embarrassed for my 9 year old to see this performance.  I think it&#039;s interesting how Miley mentioned the &quot;Britney song playing on the radio&quot; because it shows who she admires.  The lyrics to this song are really dumb too.  What 16 year old can go to a club anyway to have everyone look at her while she shakes her hips like yeah?  I thought you had to be 21.  Hey, let&#039;s all grow up as fast as we can so we can get into nightclubs!  It&#039;s the ultimate.  Miley gets away with the black bra, the pole dancing, short shorts, boots, etc. because she mentions God in her thank you speech.  If a girl mentions God and has a great realationship with her parents then hey, she must be the salt of the earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the Teen Choice Awards but I would have been embarrassed for my 9 year old to see this performance.  I think it&#8217;s interesting how Miley mentioned the &#8220;Britney song playing on the radio&#8221; because it shows who she admires.  The lyrics to this song are really dumb too.  What 16 year old can go to a club anyway to have everyone look at her while she shakes her hips like yeah?  I thought you had to be 21.  Hey, let&#8217;s all grow up as fast as we can so we can get into nightclubs!  It&#8217;s the ultimate.  Miley gets away with the black bra, the pole dancing, short shorts, boots, etc. because she mentions God in her thank you speech.  If a girl mentions God and has a great realationship with her parents then hey, she must be the salt of the earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Jussel, Shaping Youth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Jussel, Shaping Youth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily, I just linked to this post and to Robyn&#039;s on my OWN take on this &#039;pseudo-controversy.&#039;  http://www.shapingyouth.org/?p=8019

Maybe I&#039;m getting too cynical but I attribute my &#039;yawn&#039; and flatline EKG reaction less to saturation and more to &#039;misinterpretation and sensationalism&#039;...in other words, I knew media would &quot;miss the freakin’ point&quot; and veer AWAY from the global impact of objectification, how it’s landing on kids, and fouling up a healthy sense of sexuality…

Instead, as we&#039;ve already seen, it&#039;s devolved into a petty, prickly snipefest of &quot;whether Miley was stanholding onto the pole for stability” or presenting a provocative pornified bump-n-thrust.

The IMPORTANT conversation about kids getting damaged and the APA study (72pp) on the harm of early sexualization will be left behind...

Just watch. Instead, media will spar about decency and conduct and cluck about ‘today’s kids’ and digital media...NOT about the damage and psychological reverb.  

If I&#039;m wrong? THEN I&#039;ll raise my eyebrows with a &#039;surprised&#039; reaction. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily, I just linked to this post and to Robyn&#8217;s on my OWN take on this &#8216;pseudo-controversy.&#8217;  <a href="http://www.shapingyouth.org/?p=8019" rel="nofollow">http://www.shapingyouth.org/?p=8019</a></p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m getting too cynical but I attribute my &#8216;yawn&#8217; and flatline EKG reaction less to saturation and more to &#8216;misinterpretation and sensationalism&#8217;&#8230;in other words, I knew media would &#8220;miss the freakin’ point&#8221; and veer AWAY from the global impact of objectification, how it’s landing on kids, and fouling up a healthy sense of sexuality…</p>
<p>Instead, as we&#8217;ve already seen, it&#8217;s devolved into a petty, prickly snipefest of &#8220;whether Miley was stanholding onto the pole for stability” or presenting a provocative pornified bump-n-thrust.</p>
<p>The IMPORTANT conversation about kids getting damaged and the APA study (72pp) on the harm of early sexualization will be left behind&#8230;</p>
<p>Just watch. Instead, media will spar about decency and conduct and cluck about ‘today’s kids’ and digital media&#8230;NOT about the damage and psychological reverb.  </p>
<p>If I&#8217;m wrong? THEN I&#8217;ll raise my eyebrows with a &#8217;surprised&#8217; reaction. <img src='http://rosalindwiseman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Robyn Silverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Robyn Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is frustrating, isn&#039;t it?  I just wrote about it myself:  I think we may be making a Miley Mountain out of a Miley Molehill. Thoughts on the Miley Cyrus dance? http://tinyurl.com/pyh4ex 

Yes, I didn&#039;t liek the tight shorts, the dancing girls, or the poll much.  However, I can&#039;t help but wondering if we are making a &quot;Miley Mountain&quot; out of a &quot;Miley Molehill.&quot; I mean, who told us to make her our daughters&#039; role model anyway?  Wasn&#039;t it just last year that we were having the same discussion?  Ya know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on you (and all that jazz).

I in no way want to make light of the sexualization of teens-- it IS sad that producers, entertainers, and everyone else want to make this more about chock and awe and lining wallets than what is good for the development of girls and young teens.  However, I think it&#039;s vital that we realize that we don&#039;t need to accept her as a role model.  As parents, we can still take responsibility for the positive development of our children.   We don&#039;t like it? Talk about it.  Not showing our values? Make sure that your children know yours. Don&#039;t know how it&#039;s going to affect your children?  Ask them. Listen. Learn.

Yes, int he end, I still think parents matter.  If we are doing our job well, Miley will be just another quick blip on the radar screen...we&#039;re here to stay as positive influences in our children&#039;s lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is frustrating, isn&#8217;t it?  I just wrote about it myself:  I think we may be making a Miley Mountain out of a Miley Molehill. Thoughts on the Miley Cyrus dance? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/pyh4ex" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/pyh4ex</a> </p>
<p>Yes, I didn&#8217;t liek the tight shorts, the dancing girls, or the poll much.  However, I can&#8217;t help but wondering if we are making a &#8220;Miley Mountain&#8221; out of a &#8220;Miley Molehill.&#8221; I mean, who told us to make her our daughters&#8217; role model anyway?  Wasn&#8217;t it just last year that we were having the same discussion?  Ya know, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on you (and all that jazz).</p>
<p>I in no way want to make light of the sexualization of teens&#8211; it IS sad that producers, entertainers, and everyone else want to make this more about chock and awe and lining wallets than what is good for the development of girls and young teens.  However, I think it&#8217;s vital that we realize that we don&#8217;t need to accept her as a role model.  As parents, we can still take responsibility for the positive development of our children.   We don&#8217;t like it? Talk about it.  Not showing our values? Make sure that your children know yours. Don&#8217;t know how it&#8217;s going to affect your children?  Ask them. Listen. Learn.</p>
<p>Yes, int he end, I still think parents matter.  If we are doing our job well, Miley will be just another quick blip on the radar screen&#8230;we&#8217;re here to stay as positive influences in our children&#8217;s lives.</p>
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